Comments on: Rabbi Meshulam Fivel Koblentz

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:26:48 +0000

Rabbi Meshulam Fivel Koblentz, who called himself Philip in America, was in Riga in 1858, where his son Yehuda Zundel (Sigmund) was born. He emigrated to America in 1888 with his wife and several children. In 1900 the family was living at 29 Attorney Street in Manhattan, in 1903 at 305 Madison Street in Manhattan, and in 1910 at 120 Bay 14th Street in Brooklyn.

Two questions:

1. His congregation, Agudath Achim Anshei Libowitz, was evidently established in Brownsville in 1906. Is there information about which congregation(s) he was associated with between 1888 and 1906?

2. New York City directories from 1894 to 1896 list a Philip Koblentz in the “meat” business, presumably as a butcher, at 80 Essex Street. Since Philip Koblentz (using all possible spelling variations) was an otherwise unique name in America at that time, is it possible that this Philip was Meshulam Fivel?

By: YD Miller

YD Miller — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:26:31 +0000

Asher, to clarify;

RBE’s works are not limited to Orthodox, he lists famous jews and Rabbis from all walks of life.

Adolph Coblenz was the 2nd or third Rabbi in his Cong. Chizuk Amunah in Baltimore, under his leadership the Congregation voted to adopt mixed seating (רח”ל) in the shul, see:
http://www.chizukamuno.org/about/history–mission/

About the confusing name of R’ Feivish/Feivel Koblenz, the answer is לאו מר בר רב אשי חתים עלה as it was the case in many instances where the children cared little about thier father’s vlaues they did not make the effort to even spell and write correctly thier parents markers.
I am not saying that is the case here, but as one of the Gedolim used to say “America hut ales farentfert” (America was the excuse for everything)

By: asher

asher — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:50:17 +0000

I’m a bit confused – my assumption from Farshlufens’ comment below -

“Asher, בעוה”ר Adolph coblenz was the son of Rav zundel son of Rav faish.”

is that Rav Zundel’s son was not kinda orthodox while RBE has him listed in his sefer – why would RBE list him if he wasn’t completely orthodox – was he orthodox but his congregation not so?

Another question:
Rav Koblentz name is spelled here -
Meshulem Feivel
while on his son’s marker it’s spelled -
Shraga Feivish
In Ragshay Yehuda he spells it
Meshulem Feivish
I understand that MF is the same name as SF but why would they spell it differently – OK, it’s not a Kesubah but why spell it differently.

if i wanna light for his neshomo, how would you suggest i say “l’ilui nishmas….”

Is it fair to assume that his son wrote this nusach so this should be the most accurate.

By: YD Miller

YD Miller — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:52:05 +0000

Asher,
In the link above you can see a clear picture of the marker. While the name Koblentz is spelled with a K on the fathers marker, it is spelled with a C as Coblenz on the sons marker in Mt. Zion Cemetery.

By: asher

asher — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:52:35 +0000

Thank you.

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:51:08 +0000

Asher, I Emailed them to R’ Baruch.

By: asher

asher — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:16:04 +0000

I am doing teshuva – Rav Zundl wasn’t Rav in Bath Beach, total mistake on my part. Bath Beach is adjacent to Bensonhurst.

Farshlufen, can you upload a clear picture of Rav Yehuda Zundl Koblents’ marker. TY.

By: asher

asher — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:49:55 +0000

I found in public records Harry Koblentz who resided on Cropsey Avenue. Born Oct 12 1904, Died May 26 1994 age 84. Must be related somehow.

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:01:45 +0000

Asher, Yisroel answered to the question where the anshei libowitz shul was, the congregation Chevra Kadisha was located in 46 Moore street in the Williamsburg Bushwik area.

By: YD Miller

YD Miller — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:13:59 +0000

http://www.yiddishworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=367713&sid=f7fb1d5b665bfa67eb4ed80dc8fd4424#p367713

By: YD Miller

YD Miller — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:31:13 +0000

The son Reb Yehuda Zundel had a son Rabbi Abraham Konlentz who was Rabbi in the Cong. Chizok V’emunah in Baltimore MD

By: asher

asher — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:50:41 +0000

Never mind, Yisroel answered had answered this above.

By: asher

asher — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:05:15 +0000

Quoting Chaim B. above:
“His son, Rav Yehuda Zundel was a Rabbi in Brooklyn at Congregation Chevra Kadisha. He also wrote a safer titled Ragshi Yehuda.

Does anyone know where this shul was/is located?

By: Ellen Levitt

Ellen Levitt — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:20:18 +0000

I wrote THE LOST SYNAGOGUES OF BROOKLYN. Sorry to inform you that the shul at 195 Watkins St. no longer stands. In my book I featured text and photos of those buildings of former synagogues that still stand. I did mention a few others in passing.

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:11:54 +0000

In the above link enlarge the street view.

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:10:58 +0000

I beleive that the building is not standing anymore, look here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=195+watkins+st+brooklyn+ny&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=WaNMSt2ZNMuWtgfK78mjBA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

By: Rabbi Stern

Rabbi Stern — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:55:32 +0000

Listed where?

By: Cheskel

Cheskel — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:24:49 +0000

Knowledge about the building should B in the book of Ellen Levitt “The Lost Synagogues of Brooklyn” available through
http://www.avotaynu.com/books/LostSynagogues.htm

This comment should B be4 the 1 above.

By: Cheskel

Cheskel — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:14:29 +0000

Though I don’t C this congregation listed.

By: Rabbi Stern

Rabbi Stern — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:05:17 +0000

They have a section at Beth David as well. Rabbi Tzvi Hirsh Dachowitz, one of the last Moreh Dasrah of the congregation, and one of the leading Rabbanim of Brownsville is buried in that location. The shule records may be with the City or State’s recording office. Prior to liquidating they would have had to contact the State Attorney Generals office.
Does anyone know if the building is still standing?

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:53:41 +0000

R’ Yisroel, for photos check with NYC municipal records.

By: Yisrael

Yisrael — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:57:07 +0000

There’s an Anshei Lubowitz burial section at the Old Mt. Carmel cemetery in Queens. The shul was in Brownsville, Brooklyn on 195 Watkins Street. My great-great grandfather was a mispallel at that shul. Does anyone know if any shul records still exist or if there any photos?

By: Miller

Miller — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:32:47 +0000

Where is bethbeach?

There was a conservative rabbi Adolph Coblenz in Baltimore, not sure if there is any connection.

By: Ah Shtikle History

Ah Shtikle History — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:51:43 +0000

Not sure if there is a connection however Koblentz (or Coblenz) is name of a German city on the Rhine.

By: Chaim B.

Chaim B. — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:43:48 +0000

His son, Rav Yehuda Zundel was a Rabbi in Brooklyn at Congregation Chevra Kadisha. He also wrote a safer titled Ragshi Yehuda. Interestingly, the safer has a memorial page for his father (Meshulam Fivel) and just like on the tombstone there is no mention of the grandfather. Another thing, the safer was published in 1915 and lists the Rav's yartziet as 13 Iyar. I think it says “Bethpage”

By: Tully

Tully — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:28:00 +0000

Niglah and Nistar that is impressive.

By: avremele

avremele — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:07:35 +0000

I would imagine it says bath_beach

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:26:35 +0000

If he was 80 in תרע”ד then he was born as early as תקצ”ד.

By: Farshlufen

Farshlufen — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:24:17 +0000

What is the word after the yearתרע”ד is it bed beach or maybe Bethpage?