Rabbi Yosef Kelemer
יוסף ב"ר יצחק יהודה
Rav, Brooklyn, New YorkDate of Death:
Fri. January 26, 1962 -
Shevat 21 5722
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Name Listed on Cemetery Database: KELEMER, JOSEPH
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Photo Caption: Rabbi Yosef Kelemer, Credit: Ray Guttman
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How was the Rebbe a descendant of the Baal-Shem-Tov (as stated on the Matzieve)?
The Rabbi in YI of West-Heampstead is named Rabbbi Yehuda Kelemer, is he a dscendant of this Rabbi?
http://www.yiwh.org/yiwhrab.html
Yes, its his son.
Miller:
Rabbi Yisroel Goodman (the kever is posted on the sight) was his FIL, his tombstone has some more information.
Rebbe,
From what I researched it sounds like a grandson.
I am confused who is a grandson of whom?
The order is:
Rav Goodman
Rav Yosef Kelemer
Rav Yehuda Kelemer
I taught thad Reb Yehuda is a grandson of Reb Yossef, via a son Reb Berl.
BTW I would like to know the lineage to the Baal Shem, besides from his FIL
I once had a friend (who davens in his shule) asked him and he said that Rav Yosef was his father.
As for the lineage, not sure, the Rav has yet to answer any of the emails I?ve sent him. I do know that he has a large congregation and its hard to pin him down.
Thank you,
Thank you,
Reb Yehuda is a grandson as am I.
Reb Grand Son:
Thanks for leaving the post, hopeful know we will all stop guessing and get some real information.
Grand Rebbe:
Sorry, nobody is perfect.
Thank you,
Grandson,
What else can you tell us about your grandfather?
Do you know the lineage to the Baal Shem?
the lineage is on kevir of my greatgrandfather,, rabbi israel guttman, for whom i am named.
Isreal-grandson,
I wouldn’t think that someone would consider himself a descendant of the Baal-Shem bacause of his Father-in-law.
It seems that there is a direct cennection from Rabbi Kelemer alone, do you know who his maternal grandfather was?
There’s a very nice discussion about Rabbi Kelemer and his father in law Rabbi Yisroel Guttman, there’s also his lineage to the Baal Shem Tov. It’s in Yiddish.
http://www.yiddishworld.com/forum/index.php?f=31&t=7106&rb_v=viewtopic
My grandmother was a descendant of the Baal Shem Tov, her mother was Kelemer (or Chelmer or Khelmer) חלמר
from Lubartov. Is there any connection?
what any other information do you know about her relationship to the Baal Shem tov? maybe its from her father’s side? what was his name?
The name of her father was Avraham Mandel (Mendel?)
Mandel is the family name of the Rebbe’s of Orzistchov.
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=29141&st=&pgnum=10
Could be from the family name Shapiro (Shapira) from Midzhibuz and later Solobkovci (Ukraine) or from the family name Chelmer (Khelmer?) from Lubartov?
Solobkivtsi, Oblast Chmelnytsky, Ukraine
Medzhybizh, Oblast Chmelnytsky, Ukraine
or:
Lubartów, Polen
an article in Hamoar about Rav Kelemer:
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pagefeed/hebrewbooks_org_27848_18.pdf
my father is rabbi yehuda kelemer of west hempstead..his fathr was a chazan berele kelemer..( u would think i would know this ..but i think yosek kelemer is my father grandfather)
my father is a tenth generation grandson of the baal shem tov..from his daughter udel..( i wish i knew more about my great grandparents..if ur my relative..plz let me know
You are a grandchild not only of the Baal Shem Tov but also of many other of his greatest disciples.
It’s also interesting to note that your family is interconnected with a few other Rabbis who were in New York
Your GGF: http://kevarim.vohost.us/rabbi-yisroel-goodman/
Your great uncle Rav Shulem Bush/Buskis, who’s burial records will hopefully be posted shortly.
There’s also some family relation to Rav Barash who’s son also married to your Great aunt Mirel Kelemer, http://kevarim.vohost.us/rabbi-yisroel-goodman/
http://moreshesamerica.blogspot.com/2014/09/blog-post_8.html
The Kobriner Rebbe was also somewhat related
http://kevarim.vohost.us/rebbe-baruch-yosef-sack/
my mother was Udl Kelemer(Rosen) from Kupel.The family legend says she was a descendant of Baal-Shemtov. How could this relation be?
Does anyone have a nice picture from Rabbi Kelemer?
Mark Gildin – My Rosen family is from Kupel also. I have heard the same legend. It would be of great interest if we could see a family tree of the Baal Shem Tov. Does this exist?
attention all i think i traced the yechius from the BAAL SHEM TOV all the way down to R YEHUDAH KELEMER as follows
1BAAL SHEM TOV
2. UDEL
3. DEGEL MACHNE EPHRAIM (ASHKENAZY)
4. ETTEL ASHKENAZY – DOVID HOROWITZ
5 .RIVKA REIZEL HOROWITZ – ARYEH LEIB GUTTMAN
6.. YISROEL GUTTMAN – ?
7. DOV BER GUTTMAN (SADIKLOV)
8.YISROEL GUTTMAN(2ND) -UDEL
9. MISHKET GUTTMAN – YOSEF KELEMER
10. DOV BER KELEMER – RIVKA LEAH
11. YEHUDAH KELEMER – ROCHEL WALKIN