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Rabbi Yaakov Yosef Stein

November 26th, 2009 · 14 Comments

Rabbi Yaakov Yosef Stein

יעקב יוסף ב"ר משה מאיר

Rav , Brownsville, NY

Date of Death: Wed. August 6, 1930 - Av 12 5690

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Cemetery:

Cemetery Details

Directions to Kever: Society: CHAIM BERLIN, Section: 2, Block: 2, Gate: 12, Path: L09, Grave: 37, Map: 103, Lot: 1 on the corner of Emanuel and Washington Avenue, along the road.

Name Listed on Cemetery Database: Jacob

Biographical Notes:


Credit: Shmuel Botchy Amsel, Brooklyn, NY

Credit: Shmuel Botchy Amsel, Brooklyn, NY

Tags: Mount Judah Cemetery - Queens · New York · Queens / L.I., NY · Unknown

14 responses so far ↓

  • 1 YD Miller // Nov 26, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    From what I find he was a RY in Yeshivas Reb Chaim Berlin, he wrote a few times in the Torah periodicals of his time.

  • 2 asher // Nov 26, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Why would they leave out his last name.
    Do you feel that the word “Even” (stone) is a play on his last name.

  • 3 YD Miller // Nov 27, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Asher,

    To omit a the family name of a tumbstone is a custom that has been followed for a long time, where the surname was viewed somewhat medern and not something to present on a tumbstone (the same where Latin characters are prohibitted on tumbstones in the ultra-orthodox sector).

    However, for ID purposes it started to become popular all across, this day.

    I would not say that the word אבן” Even” is to represent the Stien-Stone theory, as this is a common phrase on tumbstones, based on a biblical verse.

  • 4 Adam S // Nov 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    YD Miller:
    I notice hat some tombstones have raised letters while others are indented, is it pertaining to custom or just design?

  • 5 YD Miller // Nov 29, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Adam,
    I dont know of any custom regarding the inscribing og a tumbstone, but there might be some.

  • 6 Azi // Nov 29, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    YD Miller

    isnt there a gemora that one shouldnt read a matzeva whose osios are “boletes” (sticking out) as opposed to engraved?

  • 7 asher // Nov 29, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    When you say reading, does that mean verbalizing the words by mouth or simply looking is also Kosher L’shikcha?

    Is there the same issue reading an embossed headstone via photo or only the actual thingie?

  • 8 Azi // Nov 30, 2009 at 12:13 am

    I dont remember if there was a distinction between reading aloud or just seeing the words.

    It is probably more of a halachic question of whether scanning words with ones eyes constitutes reading. A difference would be studying gemora: does one have to verbalize the words or is just reading the words in your mind enough. Another example would be tefilla, i think one must verbalize there. and simply seeing the words is not enough.

  • 9 Azi // Nov 30, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Also, it wasnt really a psak in the gemora, it was in a list of things that causes forgetfulness.

    I guess people should ask their rabbis if they think you should be concerned with this tip or not.

  • 10 asher // Nov 30, 2009 at 2:38 am

    1.
    a question off topic. The title Father /Fäter and Mother/Müter engraved on all these headstones – isn’t it mostly obvious that a couple is buried her.

    Right, in the times when no last names were etched, it’s important to make it clear – but most of the ones i saw do have last names.

    2.
    i think this was discussed already somewhere on this site, when did we stop putting husband and wife next to each other.

    3.
    When did we stop writing english on the main headstone?

    4.
    If Embossed lettering is not a good idea, how do we explain all these embosses Matzevos that we are not allowed to even read?

  • 11 YD Miller // Nov 30, 2009 at 10:28 am

    Asher,

    On your # 2 question, while visiting Mt. Zion Cemetary yesterday, you see plots as early as 1900 where husband and wife are not next to each other, while other plots do have families together, I guess it is not a matter of “when” but rather “where”.

  • 12 avremele // Nov 30, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Azi:

    I was told that “Boltos” is only a problem when the letters are placed on the matzeiva. These matzeivos are engraved around the letters. Still being “inside” the matzeiva. If you (or others) are still worried, say “Ahava Rabba” after reading it.

    Asher:

    2. Putting Husband/Wife together or not, is a minhag of families or chevras.

    3. Writing goyishe oisiyos, When did we start?

  • 13 Azi // Nov 30, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    @avremele ,

    thanks for the clarification. Truthfully i’m not worried since the same gemora says one shouldnt eat small fish (ie sardines) and nobody pays attention to that, so i guess ot was a suggestion only. Im sure the poskim dont quote this gemora.

  • 14 Azi // Nov 30, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    @avremele , I saw a teshiva by R moshe Shternbuch that only the english date shouldnt be written on a ,matzeiva. he didnt have a problem with the name in english for example.

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